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Driver61
Driver61 4 days ago
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noobsatwar 1
noobsatwar 1 2 days ago
Under f1 rules the car on the inside has the right to stay there so I'd say it was down to max they are the rules and both drivers know that . So I would put it down to max .
jun z8
jun z8 3 days ago
There are no rules saying that a driver MUST hit the Apex of the corner, they do to get maximum exit speed. To me was that Max tried to clip the Apex from the outside while fully aware of the fact that Lewis was alongside him.
blakasmurf
blakasmurf 3 days ago
@Gas Gas Gas He wasn't Lewis got all the way along side, and lifted once he realised Max was still turning in
blakasmurf
blakasmurf 3 days ago
Disagree, Max compromised Lewis' line so much into Copse he didn't have much choice but to miss, make a late apex or back out. Max turns into the corner like normal disregarding that Lewis' can't suddenly disappear. Max expected Lewis' to back out. Live by the sword moment...
Razzle1964
Razzle1964 3 days ago
@john doe Give it time, son. Give it time.
Quinton
Quinton 9 seconds ago
Lewis Hamilton Max Verstappen Silverstone Grand Prix 2021- Final Draft The Framework of the sport has been breached and it steps into a criminal act and as such, given it's gravity, attempted murder charge's should be leveled against lewis. The evidence show's Lewis intentionally , for a moment, imperceptible to the untrained eye turned his wheel into Max's rear right in a classic pincer move to kick him to the curb, and blame it on understeer , and so it was. At the precise moment Max calculated & cleared the challenge, and the challenger obligated to give way, Lewis broke his line for a split second & bumped his wheel. The result was instant with serious damage to the engine meaning penalty points to Red bull if they put in a new engine. Lewis is experienced enough to navigate Copse corner AND commit the crime without being noticed or so he thought. Given all his racial gripes and street fighter stance which he openly admits to and the false notion that Redbull added extra power to their engine ,probable cause set in mentally and took a grip on him over the weeks which resulted in Lewis's subconscious mind ,calculating the move with precision to commit Murder in a pivotal race that would lead up to him entering the History books should he take the championship. Consequently, in his quest for the 'Best in History' title, the opposite happened & the dubious honour now bestowed on the only black driver to get this far, is, worst F1 driver in history. All this at a time when England lose the Euro Cup to Italy after a 55yr absence of the tournament on home soil. Britain was desperate for any sort of victory and a champion to celebrate. Lewis being well aware of this heeded the call silently to give the fans what they wanted at ANY cost, leaving it to his brain to craft his wicked deed and leaving Max in Hospital to watch him unceremoniously wave the British flag overdosing on the poisonous applause on home soil. Lewis will be remembered for all the wrong reasons on the wrong side of history. Helmut Marko bringing in legal advisor's , was quick thinking and a wise move, as he sensed the act of criminality firmly entrenched in Lewis. Christian Horner and Dr Helmut Marko are the people to watch as this saga unfolds. Toto Wolf is mesmerized by a looming championship victory for Mercedes Benz, the Nuovo Riche of Formula 1. His opinion cannot be counted for much with his clouded vision and his ability to lobby the steward's at Silverstone, brushing off Horner's initial concerns immediately after the accident. The sport is constantly evolving and as such, criminal intent CANNOT be ruled out as the driver's fight for the championship title and more so an historic championship looming for Constructor and driver. The Steward's ruled instantly with a 10 second penalty as is procedure and albeit the mildest penalty under such catastrophic events, it is further warranted and rightly so at the behest of Dr Helmut Marko that legal advisor's probe into the accident. It's my firm hope that the FIA ,F1 and Redbull legal team come to the same conclusion I have and press charges. Attempted Murder is a bold claim , but when analysing the footage, history , personality clashes, psyche and competitive edge of Lewis Hamilton measured against Max Verstappen, it is plausible and cannot be ruled out and should have it's merits tested in a criminal court. Having said that , this event sets a precedent for the framework of the sport having been breached by a person who stands on the precipice of Greatest of all time and willing to kill for it. The FIA , F1, industry experts and legal system needs to be stretched to it's limits to ascertain the truth to remind Future Great athletes that there are boundaries in attaining Great achievements. Lewis is firmly at fault, that is my assessment of the matter. Quinton Padayachee ©
Thomas Lynch
Thomas Lynch 8 minutes ago
leclrec gave the right amount of space max didn't ham should have Calc the tires. both drivers could have done more so racing incident...simple
Horyzen Gaming
Horyzen Gaming 33 minutes ago
When you squeeze someone on the inside you know they will not hit the apex so have to give them room for a wider apex. Simple rule that all good drivers know. Lewis thought max would know this but max did not and max made contact with Hamilton by giving no space for the wider apex. So yes it was Max fault 100%. Also the switchback would of been the best situation for max but his arrogance got the better of him. He will learn from this that is for sure.
GTI8855
GTI8855 48 minutes ago
Lewis should have been given a stop-and-go penalty.
Pugpugba VRhulu
it is clear that all the dislikes are fro mercedes fans
theINQBS
theINQBS 3 hours ago
Are you on crack dude? I guess the fact that Max lacked ALL spatial awareness and cut across Hamilton is of no significance here. SMH And Max was far further away from the apex than Hamilton and braked later so if Hamilton wasn't making the apex, CERTAINLY Max wasn't making it either. YES Hamilton carried speed into the corner, but YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER it was in accordance with max's speed into the same corner at the same time, AND the fact Lewis IS the latest broker in all of F1, and Max continued to brake well after he needed to and THEN cut in on Hamilton whom he'd seen was 80% alongside and STILL tried to put the squeeze on Hamilton and as such, it is Verstappen's fault as he purposely CROWDED the attacking driver. Since it seems you and so many here are oblivious to the actual rule… 20.4 Any driver defending his position on a straight, and before any braking area, may use the full width of the track during his first move, provided no significant portion of the car attempting to pass is alongside his. For the avoidance of doubt, if any part of the front wing of the car attempting to pass is alongside the rear wheel of the car in front this will be deemed to be a 'significant portion'. 20.5 Manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, ARE NOT PERMITTED. Max was clearly at fault according to these rules and the penalty was a joke in the sense that the offending driver crashed out, so let's penalize the guy who luckily was able to continue? If this is the proper penalty, then WHAT IN THE F*CK should the penalty have been when Verstappen intentionally punted Leclerc off the track in 2019??!?!? Perhaps he should be banned from racing altogether since after all, his move on Leclerc was purposeful & pre-meditated. What a bunch of misinformed hypocrites! After this I will NEVER watch anything you post! What a joke this is.
Google Account
Google Account 3 hours ago
I call this 80% Lewis 20% Max
Carl Slagle
Carl Slagle 3 hours ago
Sorry mate. but I gave you a thumbs down on this one. Not because I disagree with your conclusions but that your visual evidence, the photos on the screen we are seeing, are irrelevant to the point you're making. If the visual shots we are given are supposed to substantiate and be the evidence of the validity of your arguments, you missed an opportunity to make your case. And it didn't happen. Better luck next time.
Vinh Huynh
Vinh Huynh 4 hours ago
I can’t stand Hamilton, but I’ve watched it so many times and chalk it up to race incident. Lewis’ front axle was already passed the midway point of Max’s chassis so Lewis was significantly along side him, he could make the turn successfully on his current line (and did), while having to give max enough space to complete his line. Watching it Max turned in on his line and did not maintain it. According to FIA rules, there should have been no penalty.
Thugger 005
Thugger 005 5 hours ago
Ok Lewis is aggro 1 time and Max turns into him, thats what i saw but who cares
James Mac
James Mac 6 hours ago
Mercedes contends that FIA rules for overtaking in a corner require only two elements - that the overtaking car be substantially alongside and that the car be able to complete the corner. They further contend that Hamilton's front wheels were ahead of the midpoint of Verstappen's car which satisfies the alongside requirement, and Hamilton not only could complete the corner, but did complete the corner, even after contact. There is no requirement to clip the apex. They further contend that having met those requirements, no penalty should have been assessed. Just pointing out their case.
Collard Greens
Collard Greens 6 hours ago
Better for Max to walk away with 2nd place than no place at all. Sometimes you have to be weary of over eager moves like the one Lewis pulled, but verstappen has a history of over defending lines so I wasn't at all surprised at seeing them make contact. Lol Was inevitable, likely more drama to come as well.
Canadian Bacon
Canadian Bacon 6 hours ago
Lewis was 100% at fault. He was never going to make the pass and should have lifted. Red Bull should send Mercedes the 1.8 Million dollar bill. Lewis should have been DQ'd. F1 could still do that.
STEM MEDIA
STEM MEDIA 7 hours ago
Seems like a very one sided point of view
Medjay Rod
Medjay Rod Hour ago
yep.
Brian_OR97
Brian_OR97 7 hours ago
finally someone which isnt biased like Sky Presenters, who speaks sense.
Gary Wait
Gary Wait 7 hours ago
Great video definitely agree 👍only thing you forgot to mention was Lewis had a lot more speed with getting maxes slip then he definitely didn't take all the variables of what was going to happen making a narrow entry at high speed . For a 7 time champ bimbos a amateur and desperate maneuver
Simonhutch uk
Simonhutch uk 8 hours ago
Positioned absolutely perfectly turn 3/4, didn’t max go off the track outside of turn 3 to keep the position?
DT
DT 8 hours ago
PERFECT analysis!
ItsGianniskos
ItsGianniskos 9 hours ago
In my opinion it was Lewis fault because i think he was too confident that he would overtake max and he didn't brake on time
Tj Willms
Tj Willms 9 hours ago
Either one could have backed off, neither did. They are racing drivers and with that comes inherent risk. Max got the worst of it this time. But we all have a for real title fight to watch and it should be grand, despite the whining noises coming from the red-bull garages.
Pablito Paul
Pablito Paul 9 hours ago
I think that the only thing Max failed to realize was that he had the f*****g Lewis Hamilton on the inside, who threw himself with all the championships on. If Max would have let him pass, maybe, he would have had better traction to scissor him.
Mouse Killaz
Mouse Killaz 9 hours ago
Lewis is master of car control ...he planned it
reffoelcnu alouncelal
Without the modern cockpit in a F1 car he wouldn’t have come out of that shunt so lightly, When you see the spectators video it’s amazing he just walked out
Pat Peterson
Pat Peterson 10 hours ago
Verstappen........ got a taste of his own medicine and his own driving tactics of what he has done to other drivers in the past ....
Mo Aljalahma
Mo Aljalahma 10 hours ago
Totally agree why all the fuss about it it’s so clear Hamilton knows that he will not pass max from there so at that point should’ve slowed down
Deezel Kane
Deezel Kane 7 hours ago
max shouldve known that if they were to touch at copse, then he would be the one to eat dirt- but max being max, thinks he owns every piece of the track. That kid learnt a valuable lesson on sunday. Self preservation.
Eddie
Eddie 10 hours ago
I wanted anyone but Mercedes to win this year's Championship until I've had to constantly listen to the whining from RB about what to all intents and purposes was a racing incident. Lewis has been letting Max take all the 50/50s until this point in the season, but realising now that the RB was going to remain the faster car for the whole season and being his home GP, he decided to get his elbows out and it worked out. If Max doesn't ever want to back off in 50/50 situations then why should the other driver. Game on now and I don't mind now if the Mercs win as long as that whining Horner and Marco are shut up!
Bob Rose
Bob Rose 10 hours ago
Disagree, if you can't force a manoeuvre when you're virtually level, when can you. Everyone if forgetting this is a race, and not a set of "PC" procedures. If not it will once again become a sad case of the first off the line is the winner... yawn!
JK Gaming
JK Gaming 11 hours ago
A lot of people think that only Max fanboys think that Hamilton should have got a bigger penalty, but think that should have been a stop & go penalty
Arun Kumar
Arun Kumar 11 hours ago
Ha ha trying to save that Crashtappen kid and collect more fans with this little sympathy stories my blaming Lewis. 🤝👏 Good move amateurs 😂
Sung Shin
Sung Shin 12 hours ago
Max to be blamed. He made a mistake for going outside. He should have protected the inside at all cost. Dumbass!
Danny Sedney
Danny Sedney 12 hours ago
I thought Lewis was next to max on the inside, then backed off but then Max just came in. No expert but I'd blame Max for pushing his luck.
Ducati Kozak
Ducati Kozak 12 hours ago
But how do you defend the actual FIA rules, which at no time obligate Lewis to hit the apex? As long was Lewis was sufficiently alongside Max and not out of control, he had every right to take that corner. And don't equate understeer with out of control, every driver manages understeer.
miko foin
miko foin 13 hours ago
Very big word there...."EXPECTING" naaaaaah, Max expecting Lewis to...naaaah!
Jonathan Law
Jonathan Law 13 hours ago
Lost credibility with me when he said Lewis would want the car on the kerb, Lewis hadn't been on the kerb all weekend
Jonathan Law
Jonathan Law 12 hours ago
@miko foin never said they didn't, it was a racing incident, you just can't blame lewis for missing the apex that you think he should have been on when he was putting the car where he did all weekend
miko foin
miko foin 13 hours ago
You tweaking if u think two driver didn’t have almost equal parts to the crash: lol
Lvlaukwitz
Lvlaukwitz 13 hours ago
He's been driving a spaceship for 7 years. Now the red bull is within half a second (with a better driver) he's resorted to punting. Most overrated driver of all time. A fraud flattered by 7 years in a spaceship.
M. Leonel
M. Leonel 13 hours ago
I'm not sure even Hamilton steered more the contact would be avoided, because he gone for the overtaking and Verstappen closed the gate. It looks like it would be just different parts touching. I think 2 things made Hamilton take this decision: 1) He knew that was the only chance to win the race and still be a contender the the championship, due what he saw in the sprint race. 2) Verstappen is bully on the track that behave like Hamilton did in the British GP and always expect that the other drivers avoid the crash and he thounght "not this time". (Here's a good compilation of this behavior: ustotal.info/both/video/0qCjpYaXyZd8bb4.html)
Pete G
Pete G 13 hours ago
I f you drive so aggressively as Max always does then ultimately the odds are that you will at some time come a cropper - this time he did so stop all the whinging.
Gavin Carter
Gavin Carter 14 hours ago
To quote the GOAT “If you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing driver.” - Ayrton Senna Lewis went for the gap! Both drivers on the limit and in a split second what happened happened, just a racing incident. The animosity after the incident is not needed, it’s just down to both drivers and teams desperately wanting to win.
Lukas w.
Lukas w. 14 hours ago
Why is this fault punished by 10 seconds and not with a disqualification or some compensation for the car?
TheZipeedoo
TheZipeedoo 14 hours ago
Didn't Verstappen do exactly the same thing to Vettel in China 2018? And after the race, Verstappen pretty much told Vettel to bugger off, it's just a racing incident, etc. My opinion: Hamilton had his car positioned far enough forward that it was incumbent on Verstappen to not drive into him.
Peter VAN DEN BERG
Peter VAN DEN BERG 15 hours ago
If your not going for a gap your not a racer. But whas it smart to do it in that corner. Doing 280 km/h. Its more a rookie action. What pised me off the most is that lewis just partyed like he dind't just put some one in hospital. If that griped some gravel he would still be spining. And maybe badly hurt. Not befitting a g.o.a.t
Martin Waltham
Martin Waltham 15 hours ago
Are we making new rules up here? When does the car on the inside have to make the apex and take natural racing line? Does that mean every "block pass" should be penalised?
Gary Wait
Gary Wait 7 hours ago
No m8 just means u are either far enough in front to comprise and hold out the car on outside but if u have not got enough car if front and u may be running side by side its nice 2 try give the driver u are driving against some room and know u are never faster taking a inside entry so speed has to drop more to make it work . Lewis never backed off enough causing his car to understeer dramatically into max end of story 🙄
German Sorba
German Sorba 15 hours ago
It is ridiculous from Hamilton to say that he didn't have enough space when there is space to his right to put another F1 car there. Then the penalty, which is absurd. In my country the penalty depends on the damage caused; if you make another driver to lose positions; you are pushed behind him; if you make another driver to exit the race, you are black flagged, I think it is more fair than 10 seconds
Olivier Riviere
Olivier Riviere 15 hours ago
Hamilton did a mistake and was rewarded with victory. Life is so unfair ... and the 10 second penalty looks like a bloody joke. Reminds me of some English referees in Rugby ...
John Edwards
John Edwards 16 hours ago
Fair points, but I don't think Max gave any margin, he literally put his race in Hamilton's hands, so its on him for me. Hamilton always had overspeed and was on the dirty side of the track so running wide there was always a likelihood.
Peter Welp
Peter Welp 16 hours ago
Hamiltons a bad driver under pressure make to much mistakes.
Diet_Crack
Diet_Crack 16 hours ago
I also think Lewis was getting too testy on the first lap - he was trying so desperately to get ahead but Max would come back after his moves and pull something off just as good to get back in front. At the end of the day as you said, if you understeer and ram someone, it's totally on you no buts and no ifs. Everyone who is saying max should've gone wider doesn't understand how that corner even looks or drives in reality, the exit is a kink back to the right before the entry into the Maggots and Beckett's complex, your exit is on the left side before slightly adjusting to the right for the left entry that follows. Lewis was always going to be coming across at that speed even if they didn't make contact mid corner. Max had track position and was defending, he is in the right to do this and like in road driving, if you're the one behind and cause an accident, you're at fault. I'm really tired of hearing excuses being made for Hamilton, just admit that he's human and made a mistake. The cheering and gloating while Max was sent to hospital was also not on, no admission of responsibility from Mercedes is pretty pathetic.
Vampy Peanut
Vampy Peanut 16 hours ago
Here’s a link for anyone actually caring for what happen instead of hearing some bone head bias opinion 👇 ustotal.info/both/video/mp7NjZumjmSvbKo.html
D Harper
D Harper 16 hours ago
C'mon who really cares lets move on
Vampy Peanut
Vampy Peanut 16 hours ago
You tweaking if u think two driver didn’t have almost equal parts to the crash: lol
Vampy Peanut
Vampy Peanut 16 hours ago
Disagreed with this statement period! Your deff getting this wrong! THERE ARE VIDEO OF THE ENTIRE THING MODELED IN SLOW MOTION!
Vampy Peanut
Vampy Peanut 17 hours ago
Racing incident
k_5ouf
k_5ouf 17 hours ago
Poor analysis imo, it's a racing incident, as put by Chandook and Brundle (both ex F1 drivers that know what they're talking about), they both went it with aggressive intentions and Max paid the price, simple. Look at all previous races, Lewis has yielded countless times, he's a 7 times world champion, you can't expect him to drive that "perfect" line as you put it, Max would have done the exact same thing if they were in opposite positions.
Discount Tyres
Discount Tyres 17 hours ago
im sorry i think your wrong on this one both drivers could have done more max needs to respect hamilton more hes not just going to back out every-time especially at silverstone
Chris D
Chris D 17 hours ago
The guy flys over every fuckin curb and doesn't want to hit this one? Bullshit. He did that on purpose. I can see if it was Latifi...or someone else doing it out of sheer lack of experience....but no. Lewis knew exactly what he was doing.
Kip
Kip 17 hours ago
How about a quick vid on Brooklands 20 seconds before the Stowe crash. Max up the inside from behind, misses the apex, runs up to the track limits line on exit, no crash because Hamilton left him the room to do it
David Johnson
David Johnson 17 hours ago
Every current driver on the grid has not condemed the FIA's punishment against Lewis, but they know the track, rules, and cars, and have seen and been involved in past and present overtakes at Copse, in F1 and F2 and they all say "RACING INCIDENT". Trying to argue against the current racing drivers who know, is a pointless waste of time as far as I am concerned.
fyrbyrd 71
fyrbyrd 71 18 hours ago
The car on the inside line of a corner entry has the tactical advantage of the spot for corner entry and to hold the inside line. Blaming the car that holds the inside line into a corner, without reckless movement, for causing the car on the outside line to increase steering wheel input and collide into the inside car, is not how auto-racing basics works. It took a measured movement of the outside-line car to make contact with the inside-line car going through the corner. This is an incident that Max and his spotters created by not holding his line. Lewis did nothing improper nor did he cause the collision. Max failed to hold the space between cars and caused his own crash by failing to hold his own line knowing Lewis is still inside of Max's car. Max's spotters should've been informing him "Inside!" and his right-side mirrors are full of Lewis. It's Racing 101! The inside car has the line through the corner. The outside car has to yield to the inside car's line. Regardless of "who has the lead", when two cars enter a corner and they are within space of, next to each other, the cars are required to hold their respective line without colliding. The furtive movement was caused by the outside car. The outside car lost the battle of the corner.
Gung Ho Adventures
Gung Ho Adventures 18 hours ago
Supporter of both but Lewis at fault .
Billakos Papas
Billakos Papas 18 hours ago
Who disliked this vid?? Are they serious? Excellent review and the best so far unlike some other people that tried to explain what happened.
T S
T S 18 hours ago
GO Lewis!!
Brian Dewald
Brian Dewald 18 hours ago
A few corners before, Hamilton had the lead a drove around the outside of the corner giving back the lead. Lived to fight on... Max turned in, then seen Hamilton and momentarily turned out then turned in hard, if you watch Max’s on board. Max is not built to give an inch and suffered for it. Furthermore, the rules state that if the car on the inside has its front axle past the mid point of the outside car at the entry of the corner, the inside car has the corner. Max had plenty of room to live to fight on, just like Hamilton did earlier. Addressing the point about understeer, Hamilton probably had some but would have easily made the corner. The car was unsettled when the RedBull made contact and Hamilton still never left the track. Finally, we often see the inside car push the outside car in corners. How many times has Hamilton been pushed off by Rosberg by giving him room? I am sorry but I totally disagree with your assessment.
Maurice Jones
Maurice Jones 19 hours ago
I can't say that Hamilton was 100% at fault. Full tanks, cold tires was perfect analysis but also Max turned into Lewis because he has been so used to Lewis, and others backing off.......Lewis decided not to based on the lesson at the sprint race.
Ana Sardar
Ana Sardar 19 hours ago
Ban LH from one race, sign the petition www.change.org/p/f%C3%A9d%C3%A9ration-internationale-de-l-automobile-one-race-ban-for-sir-lewis-hamilton-for-british-f1-infringement-on-max-verstappen
chris chris
chris chris 19 hours ago
The inside car has no obligation to hit the apex he only has to be able to complete the corner and the corner is then classified as his corner and the duty is then on the outside car to avoid a collision.
zhain0
zhain0 19 hours ago
I think he went wide on purpose. He gets away with not turning into him them and it will always be argued about.
zhain0
zhain0 14 hours ago
@Patrik Floding no chance? really? how so?
Patrik Floding
Patrik Floding 15 hours ago
There's no chance of that. The outcome was totally unpredictable.
tazio2
tazio2 19 hours ago
Scott Mansell's diagnosis is 100% correct. Mark Webber and DC also blamed Hamilton as the accident happened live but seemed to mellow their comments later. Hamilton MISSED THE APEX .he caused the accident . The stewards would not blame him with a drive through . Motor Racing F1 is slightly crooked . It always was
BorisTheBlade
BorisTheBlade 20 hours ago
im sorry to say whats done is done mate no good in dragging it out
Kevin Joyce
Kevin Joyce 20 hours ago
In general, I don't agree with Scott's general principle of "being ahead" in racing situations. It's too codified, it eliminates risk v reward, the beauty of racing, and it suggests that Hamilton did not have a right to be there, it also suggests that Max can just turn in and ignore the car on the inside because he is ahead. It's a bit flawed to wholly apportion blame through this principle given the championship situation and what's at stake. Entitlement to the corner does not only rely on being ahead, it relys on how far alongside the attacking driver is on entry, in this case, around 90%. Chain Bear F1 illustrates this extremely well in his video. Racing should be considered to be a dance, rather than rules of the road style apportion of blame.
Anthony Andrea
Anthony Andrea 20 hours ago
Without blaming anybody - the fact is Max was the loser in this incident. Your fellow racers are going to make mistakes sometimes - that is racing - the question is - was it the right time for Max to go all or nothing? No. He could have backed out and lived to fight on from P2. Lewis may have made an error - Yes. But Max - by relying on Lewis to drive different to or from how he in fact drove - put his fate into the lap of the Gods. namely Lewis whom he elevated to the status of deity Lewis is a huge winner psychologically from this - the outcoming moaning and the complaining from Max and Horner and Red Bull - is also psychologically damaging for Max. If Red Bull just said:- OK both drivers messed up - that is racing - let us all try to do better next time - he would have had dignity - and maintained semblance of psychological equality with Lewis. He has given that all away. Max has now declared himself to be a loser and inferior. Lewis has declared himself to be a warrior and superior.
MagicAyrtonforever
MagicAyrtonforever 20 hours ago
This guy is just jealous he never made it to F1 🤣 The understeer was caused by the touch he literally has no clue
Morfeusz
Morfeusz 20 hours ago
He drove in motorsport and drove some f1 cars, understeer was caused by lower tire temps and fuel,
Ra Ga
Ra Ga 20 hours ago
All the folks Screaming this is unbiased, you do know that you have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about right ? Confirmation bias at its finest.
Graham Barnewall
Graham Barnewall 21 hour ago
So if we see basically a block pass on a corner it’s illegal? Do you still turn into a corner knowing there’s a car on the inside? Avoidable accident even if LH locked a wheel braking or under steered etc,
M Grant
M Grant 21 hour ago
Completely Lewis fault. As I said as the driver on inside you need to be more conservative. The Penalty was complete BS should’ve been at least a 15 second stop and go penalty as of the nature of the accident causing Max to be hospitalised
Harley
Harley 21 hour ago
Hamilton had 52 laps to race Max but knew after one lap Max would pull away and Hamilton couldn't accept that. He would rather deploy his famous rear wheel tap on Max, after all its only a 10 sec penalty if your name is Hamilton and its the only way he can beat Verstappen this year by shunting him off the track.
Dan Wells
Dan Wells 21 hour ago
Interesting, I had it pinned as a racing incident every day of the week. dan-wells.com/about#journal1
Christine Crockford
Christine Crockford 22 hours ago
Sorry I think your wrong. Vastapen had more of the road he turned into hamilton. I think they were both to blame and should be put down to just racing. Now they gave this penalty it makes drivers not want to overtake and the sport will become boring. Horner really did my head in crying like a baby and shouting its a corner u don't over take on and yet Lewis over took two more drivers on the same corner just fine. So Horner stop throwing ur dummy out the pram and grow up and tell ur driver when u drive aggressive this happens.
Successor123
Successor123 22 hours ago
It was a racing incident, pure and simple! Max should have not turned into Lewis as he did not have position. Max has ALWAYS been super aggressive and this time his aggression bit him in the a$$!
Harrier
Harrier 22 hours ago
On the F1 channel they did a big breakdown of the accident and they mentioned Hamilton had a different line through that corner the Most other drivers, he didn't usually go for the apex, probably would have surprised max too
Mario De Cristofaro
Mario De Cristofaro 22 hours ago
Hamilton is a serial killer, you can’t overtake there
Peter Antinucci
Peter Antinucci 22 hours ago
From a sportsmanship perspective, a fair pass is one that gives your opponent a clear choice to avoid crashing. In my opinion, Hamilton's pass at Copse did not do this. He was nowhere near the fastest line which has a super wide entry, and would have exited much slower. It does not seem to me like he gave Max enough time to see him and make a choice to correct. Hitting the apex point at Copse is extremely difficult as Hamilton explains himself ustotal.info/both/video/0oe5b3pzuX2gkLY.html. Look at his racing line in the video.... the line he was taking in the overtake might be acceptable at slower speeds where the opponent would have time to see and react. Hamilton was nowhere near the racing line, was going to exit significantly slower. He took an irresponsible risk that relied on Max pulling back but didn't give him the time to be able to react. I think it was dirty. Furthermore, as you can see in the following video ustotal.info/both/video/p5a1sGt61HaPoLo.html the steering wheel motion Hamilton uses to approach Copse in his pole lap in 2017, involves a significant steering correction, which is extremely similar to Max's steering correction on his approach before the crash. Ive heard commentators say that steering wheel correction is due to Max seeing Lewis, but I'm not so sure Max ever saw him. Easy to see it in replay slow motion and say that Max saw him and decided not to correct. I think he was correcting an understeer. Max was on the fastest line. It would be nice to see Hamilton's telemetry through the corner, relative to a clean lap.
Chris Ubels
Chris Ubels 23 hours ago
Agree 100% thanks
mpatman
mpatman 23 hours ago
Hamilton’s fault 100%
Philgood Dr.
Philgood Dr. 23 hours ago
Agree fully with your analysis….Verstappen is on a “natural turn” line (despite Leclerc statement, but if the second catches with the first both in terms of drivers and manufacturers, this is favorable to a possible remontada) and Verstappen leaves enough room on both sides for a “faster and controlled F1” but at that time they aren’t any. Hamilton came faster (strait line at low pitch less drag, shorter distance to travel inside, powerful MB, etc) and after the incident the Mercedes proved also to be much harder on the tires than other cars. so here, coming in faster and braking more on the inside, but also largely too late behind to get ahead and drift out to close the door..Lewis H. was definitely going to oversteer MORE and so he went strait into the Red Bull from the back side and so hard that it broke the suspension studs. A possible aggravating root cause could be that Lewis messed it up with the pitch controlled feature with the axial pressure onto the steering wheel causing excessive un-pitched oversteer. To me that is definitely not a normal race incident where both cars move sidewise onto each other’s simultaneously leaving no time to either driver to react…being on the inside, Hamilton has no priority to interfere with someone on the turn normal path….but being a British driver at a British Grand Prix, any fair assessment is nearly impossible and Red Bull is right to seek litigation because these stock cars behaviours must stop.
Alfred Opon
Alfred Opon Day ago
Interesting, I think there was understeer for sure but disagree that Hamilton was going for the kerb on the apex, he'd want to avoid the kerb so if he missed his turn it wasn't by as much as you point out imo. Also given that they both weren't taken out it makes it more polarizing, enjoyed your professional take on this!
nelsond1498
nelsond1498 Day ago
Copse, under normal circumstances in these current cars, is taken in 6th gear, completely flat, with the car positioned to the left side of the track as it approaches entry point. Any non-crash footage shows every car taking a virtually identical line. It is (amazingly) a totally no-problem corner to take at 290kph from the correct entry line. Hamilton's positioning of his car at the entry point was meters away from a position where the corner could be successfully negotiated flat out in 6th gear. This was a move by someone who would rather crash than have to stand on the second step of the podium, beneath Max Verstappen, in front of his adoring British fans. I wouldn't be at all surprised if something very similar was to happen at Zandvoort........with Hamilton again as the instigator.
melin labu
melin labu Day ago
Well, do we really understand the meaning of RACING? When we commit to join the race, we are prepared to accept & facing any circumstances and risks of racing. Don’t blame anyone or others or situations when incidents happen!!! Ask your self why you join the race in the first place? Race is a race, not a zoo tour???? Come on! don’t judge - if you don’t recognize the RISKS of racing then don’t join the race!!! Don’t judge as if we are experts! The expert only expert when they don’t simply judge and blaming.
KingJayOhh
KingJayOhh Day ago
Nah. Max misjudged Lewis’ BALLS!!! Rather he ran wide or not, 🤷🏾‍♂️. Max is just as aggressive in most instances. Stop your CRYING! Prayers for Max & Congrats to Hamilton! ON TO THE NEXT!
shelley king
shelley king Day ago
Watch any angle, in-cars or overhead. Max turned in on him.
J lim
J lim Day ago
Hamilton is a Douche
Damian val
Damian val Day ago
Lewis sold max the dummy overtake and max fell for it...the moment Lewis got that inside line he had won that position...sure he was wide ECT ECT but max should of backed out😐what did he do instead?he done what any competitive beast would do he tried to shut the door on Lewis and the rest his history 😢so who's at fault?mmm I'm of the belief max is
Oliver Apex
Oliver Apex Day ago
Alonso said racing incident, Leclerc said racing incident, Karun Chandhok said racing incident, Jolyon Palmer said racing incident, NICO ROSBERG, said racing incident. And this guy I've never heard of says it's 100% Lewis's fault.
GSAM_DAD
GSAM_DAD 17 hours ago
Concisely put sir, let's have UStotal content makers as the ultimate arbiters.....not :)
RecklessIntent
Dissapointing, you completely ignored Max's double movement on the wheel after looking in the mirror (Schumacher Jerez 97) and the image you used is after contact so Lewis is ofcourse sliding wide. In the in car replay you can see Lewis cannot be any further right (its a long apex) and is not understerring until Max's second yank on the wheel to cut across him. Watch it again from in car frame by frame. Im a big Max fan but look up "max lance stroll crash portugal" or "max lewis spain" Max is super agressive but this time his rival was like nah. Good stuff and fair racing.
Gunner BitCoin
I like how you give Lewis Hamilton tips on driving and say that Hamilton should have known better 🤣 on a circuit that he has won more than anyone else in the world....
GSAM_DAD
GSAM_DAD 21 hour ago
Exactly, this underlines the old adage "those who can't do, teach"
Oliver Apex
Oliver Apex Day ago
Exactly! Alonso said racing incident, Leclerc said racing incident, Karun Chandhok said racing incident, Jolyon Palmer said racing incident, NICO ROSBERG, said racing incident. And this guy I've never heard of says it's 100% Lewis's fault.
RecklessIntent
I really dont get all the understeer analysis, he really didnt. Watch it in car again, its a very long corner, he really couldnt have been any further right because then his exit would have been impossoble.
Kommon Sense
Kommon Sense Day ago
Kimi is my favorite driver, but, I'm black and there's only one in F1, so I'm certainly a bit biased... but, hear me out. Being behind in a race by 10sec is almost like the time it took Bezos to go to space and back. If you got a 10sec penalty, then go on to win the race, comfortably, in my opinion, *i don't care who's at fault.* By the latter stages of that race, we knew who would win. Come on! LH should not have won, but he did... Moving on!
toijg avnnr
toijg avnnr Day ago
into error but he himself got clobbered. Your explanation at the beginning could be better with some graphics/animation - not everyone is familiar with track layout.
Eric Valverde Rosado
I stick with the physics…First Newton Law pops in mind and you floor the breaks…I wish Hamilton was disqualified to maintain the points gap between Lewis and Max…but revenge will come in Netherlands…hope Lewis is taken out in that GP
Alfred Opon
Alfred Opon Day ago
I'll just leave this here :) ustotal.info/both/video/0qCjpYaXyZd8bb4.html
kmg4374
kmg4374 Day ago
Don't think I agree. Hamilton has no obligation to hit apex, entered the corner alongside. Max chopped over to the right with little regard for the position of Hamilton's car. It's a racing incident in the most neutral interpretation. But given they both knew the stakes, both established the ROE with the first couple of corners, entered copse corner alongside each other... both had to assume the other car still in play. Max slashed to the right belligerently. I think it's on him.
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